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Deluded.... 2007/08/19 23:56
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Slimothy says: Interesting idea - that all of you should feel proud and happy that you are fat, but it's flawed really isn't it ?
Most of the people on this site (well the wobbly ones anyway) have said things like "I have tried dieting" or even "I have tried everything" so in other words these people have tried, failed, and now rather than persevere and put in some real effort they now claim that they are happy with the way they are, have given in trying to conform etc etc.
In a nutshell, what you are saying is that You have all just learned to live with yr flab and are happier for it. Well good for you ! that's great ! no, I mean it. If you're happy then you have found something that eludes a lot of people for their whole lives.
However, don't ever try to do the following :
- Convince anyone that its normal to be that way. Normal for walrus maybe, not a human. - Moan at skinny people and say they are 'Lucky' I doubt it. Most of them just eat more healthy nutritious food, and less of it than you do. - Complain that people taunt you. Every time you over eat you are making a decision to be fat. Its human nature to single out things that are different, and when you weigh 10stone more than other people - you ARE different. Get used to the idea or eat less, your call. - Try and convince people that you can be healthy. You might be healthy AT THE MOMENT but you are by far more likely to suffer from ill health and die young.Thats not me victimising you, it's just a fact. You can say you're healthy 'til you're blue in that face...which is ironic really 'cos thats one of the things that happens to people who have strokes isnt it ?
When I finally decided that I no longer wanted to be fat I lost 60lbs. I ate sensibly, cut out the junk, ate more fruit and exercised a lot more. It was very hard, there are NO quick fixes and it took me years. If it takes years to get fat why would you expect it to take weeks to get slim ?
The simple fact is if you eat less and exercise more you will lose weight.Sadly its equally true that this is very hard and thats why people fail.
But when the alternative is being fat for life and deciding that you may as well make the best of it, thats just defeatist and quite sad really.
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Re:Deluded.... 2007/08/19 23:56
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MidlandsBelle Whoever said we were all happy?
But why shouldn't we be allowed to enjoy our lives without constant criticism? I didn't murder or abuse anyone I just got fat!
We know we're fat. We know medically it is very, very bad for us.
Maybe for us accepting our fatness and starting to enjoy living is the first step towards shedding our pounds?
Personally I'm living for today, making small changes to my lifestyle and eating habits, and changing shape. Going on a "diet" doesn't work for everyone. You just have to make the best you can of every day.
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Re:Deluded.... 2007/08/19 23:57
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Gizzie I read that most people who die of 'fat' related causes were on a diet at the time!! So, does this mean that it's the act of dieting, and the subsequent strain on the body that increases our morbidity, as opposed to being large for it's own sake.
I just simply defy anybody to say that fat, in of itself, to a reasonable level, that is to say, you can move freely, run, and go about your daily business easily is going to make me die early!.
It's sedentary lives that make us die early, which is why lots of slim men have heart attacks too!!
Being a little wee old woman, living a wrecked life full of osteoporosis because you've not got enough body weight to give your bones strength is not an attractive prospect to me either.
The equation fat = die early just doesn't compute. Alot of other factors have to be considered such as smoking, and lifestyle.
I mean, fat + pill + smoking for example, that is a terrible combination. As is slim + pill + smoking.
It's all a question of risk management.
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Re:Deluded.... 2007/08/19 23:58
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Buffpuff Many years ago - when I was, ironically, considerably thinner than I am now - I made a conscious decision to channel all the energy I’d hitherto wasted beating myself up for failing to conform to the societal norm into self-acceptance instead.
Doubtless Slimothy will find this hard to believe but doing so in the face of the kind of bigoted ignorance and prejudice demonstrated by his good self, (not to mention regular anti-fat rants in the media by the likes of Lynda Lee-Potter, A.A. Gill, Nina Myskow etc; the routine blanking of fat people as a viable market by the fashion industry, to name just two other things which suck about being abundant), takes courage, determination and commitment – rather like dieting in point of fact. Far from being a sad, defeatist act I have found the effects of cultivating this attitude to be positive, liberating and long-lasting. I am certainly accorded more respect as a confident size 22 than I ever was as a self-loathing size 16.
I’m not proud of being fat. But nor do I accept that my size makes me any less worthy of respect than a thinner person. Frankly life’s just too damn short to dignify Slimothy’s list of fatuous don’t-ever-try-to-do-the-followings with reasoned argument. (But don’t for a moment think that I couldn’t, Slimbo –if I wasn’t such a lady, I’d be asking you if you’d like to step outside and say that). Rather, what I want to know is why it so very obviously bothers the bejesus out of him that some of us have chosen to accept ourselves flab and all? Why, one might even take his spleen-fuelled invective as evidence of resentment or jealousy. Or even redirected rampant self-loathing.
Hey, I'm just saying...
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Re:Deluded.... 2007/08/19 23:58
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Irresponsible and Insensitive
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Re:Deluded.... 2007/08/20 00:01
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Dear Vicky,
This is not something you have not heard before.
Personally I consider your website domain name irresponsible and some what insensitive of the fat epidemic which is currently sweeping the country.
Fat is NOT the new black.
Fat, and its associated diseases are a drain on the NHS. So are smokers you say, but at least smokers pay a massive tax on cigarettes – which more than compensates the economy.
Fat will lead to a large proportion of our future generation dying prematurely.
We are seeing more and more fat kids on the streets.
A child should NEVER be fat. NEVER.
Children should be active and eat healthily. There is NO excuse for a fat child.
Parents with obese children should have the kids taken off them. It is child abuse. Does the child do the weekly shop? I think not.
Fat is not the new black.
I’m sick and tired of your fat excuses and thyroid bollocks.
I have had a quick read through your site and seem to remember a lady quoting that she wasn’t lazy because she has her own web site design company, and she was immobilized in front of a PC for most of the day.
*News Flash* - so are most office worker (who might I add, are not obese)
A person who is inactive on a daily basis requires 1100kcal per day, not 2000, as you would like to believe.
For example, I am office based and spend 75% of the day on my rear – (driving & working) however I eat 1000kcal per day because, surprisingly enough, that’s all my body needs.
If I’m honest, I would love to eat big sandwiches for lunch with crisps or a McDonalds but I don’t. I eat a tin of soup and 2 pieces of fruit. Don’t get me wrong, I eat everything, but in moderation.
When I’m sitting at a desk all day, I do not need a bag of crisps with 19.6g of fat. Your body does not need it.
There is nothing tricky about loosing or maintaining weight. If you eat more calories than you use, you will put weight on. If you eat what you need i.e. 1000kcal per day, you will maintain your weight. If you eat less than you use you will loose weight.
Its hardly rocket science.
How about “will power is the new black” ?
I have just packed in smoking. I smoked 30+ a day. At the same time I went on a diet to prevent me putting on any weight.
I have lost half a stone, and stopped smoking for 2 months so far
Don’t you think that took will power?
I’ll tell you this too – the diet was the easy part!
The fat epidemic in the UK is nothing to be proud of.
I accept that for some people who are fat, the task of loosing weight is just too much, and I assume your website is here to support those who don’t have the will power to turn their lives around
But don’t tell me you’ve tried everything – its simple mathematics.
I do not wish to insult you as an individual. Being fat is your choice (and yes, it is a choice) but to quote “fat is the new black” is frankly abhorrent. It makes my skin crawl.
I am disgusted that you should promote your condition as something to be proud of. IT’S NOT
Perhaps you could run a few other sites like –
Alcoholism is the new black Smoking is the new black I’m a drug user. Hey, it’s the new black
Or how about …
I’m feeding my kids ****, they will have bad health when they’re older, but I’m proud of it???
Get a grip.
Fat is the new black? No darling, sorry but its just plain old fat with same excuse.
nobody is buying your crap, apart from other fat people who have used up the "thyroid" excuse and have now decided the next best route is to be "proud"
what a load of ****.
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